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  RETIREMENT HOMES AND COMPANY BY AND FOR JEHOVAH WITNESSES???

  by ADJUSTMENTS in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just did some googling on jws and found some info i've never heard of before... this rabbit hole just gets deeper and deeper... links to retirement homes and company!!!

  have any of you heard of this before?.

  http://touch.mcall.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-79180330/.

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  never a jw

  Retirement homes for JW's is stupid. We are in the final days. What's the point?
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  regarding blood

  by never a jw in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  as a father of a baptized jw 17 year old girl i am concerned about her stand on blood.

  so i decided to do some research.

  i found the following in the elders' book "sheperd the flock of god" pages 110-112.

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  eyeusetobadub

  Funny way of suggesting something useful. If the moment ever comes, I will put so much pressure on my daughter and doctors that she will come out of the hospital with plenty of blood, alive and ready to be forgiven. If not forgiven, it's war against the evil organization.
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  Moustaches vs. beards - one of the contributing factors to losing my cognitive dissonace

  by Pacopoolio in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as a little background - i was born-in to being a witness, back in '79, in detroit, in mostly black and poor congregations.

  baptized when 10-ish, stayed around, was on the fast track to ms, but faded when i moved out at 24ish.. there was a combination of a few things that got me on the road to "freedom" from the cognitive dissonance that kept me "in the truth" for so long.

  the main thing was, being an artist and studying marketing, my thinking was patterned to constantly question if i was doing something "correctly," as constant improvement and questioning is what facilitates artistic and mental growth.

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  Facial hair is facial hair. The elder who gave me a study 20 years ago has the ugliest mustache I have ever seen. It looked like F. Nietzsche mustache but one third of the hair. Long, untrimmed, pointing in every direction hair. Funny thing is that certain JW sister kept giving hell to her non-JW brother for his well trimmed, cool, great loooking very thin beard. She called his beard "esa cochinada". Translation: "that dirty thing" except that in Spanish sounds even more intense. She said that she hoped one day he started a bible study so he would get rid of "esa cochinada"

  Conclusion: for JW's an ugly untrimmed, disgusting mustache represents pure worship to Jehovah, while a well trimmed, good looking, thin, beard represents satanic worship. Ok, Ok a slight exageration, but the main point stands. JW's are uncapable or not free to use common sense even to judge what is an attractive use of facial hair.
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  regarding blood

  by never a jw in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  as a father of a baptized jw 17 year old girl i am concerned about her stand on blood.

  so i decided to do some research.

  i found the following in the elders' book "sheperd the flock of god" pages 110-112.

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  Rebel8,

  It's the latest version (2010) of the book of elders. I have the full book in PDF. I suspect things have changed from the days of the references to blood transfering you the personality of the donor. But mainly, I feel that the Governing Body wants to make the blood transfusions issue as unconspicuos as possible without actually changing the doctrine. The other two options are 1) to take a flagrant, but very controversial position against blood transfusions and 2) to drop the doctrine altogether, but face a bunch of civil lawsuits (maybe even criminal) from those who lost a relative for refusing a blood transfusion.
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  regarding blood

  by never a jw in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  as a father of a baptized jw 17 year old girl i am concerned about her stand on blood.

  so i decided to do some research.

  i found the following in the elders' book "sheperd the flock of god" pages 110-112.

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  never a jw

  As a father of a baptized JW 17 year old girl I am concerned about her stand on blood. So I decided to do some research. I found the following in the elders' book "Sheperd the Flock of God" pages 110-112

  "3. Actions that may indicate disassociation include the following:

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  • Willingly and unrepentantly taking blood. If someone willingly takes blood, perhaps because of being under extreme pressure, the committee should obtain the facts and determine the individual's attitude. If he is repentant, the committee would provide spiritual assistance in the spirit of Galatians 6:1 and Jude 22, 23. Since he is spiritually weak, he would not qualify for special privileges [no big deal (my own comment)] for a period of time, and it may be necessary to remove certain basic privileges. Depending on the circumstances, the committee may also need to arrange for an announcement to the congregation: "The elders have handled a matter having to do with [name of person]. You will be glad to know that spiritual shepherds are endeavoring to render assistance. On the other hand, if the elders on the committee determine that he is unrepentant they should announce his disassociation."

  I have known of few cases of adultery in recent years among JW relatives or JW friends. Even a case of elder's wife running off with the husband's dear friend and fellow congregation elder. The culprits were back two days later, very contrite and ready to atone their sin. However repentance was not enough, the culprits had to do their time. They had to humiliate themselves going to meeting for a year and suffer the shunning of friends and family. They had to go through the inquisition of the elders, who would not leave any stone unturned (leave no detail to the imagination)

  Adultery hurts the feelings of people, refusal to take blood kills people. This tells me that, since they allow death to happen, JW leaders consider accepting blood even worse than adultery and yet, there seems to be an easier way out for the patient accepting blood than there is for the adulterer. Just show repentance, prove that you were pressured and you are off the hook; the elders appointed by God will forgive your transgresion. But if a lesser trangresion is commited, namely adultery, then you have to serve a much longer and harsher sentence.

  Isn't this disproportionate application of punishment to the crime a hint (along with the inconsistency of the blood fractions doctrine) that the leaders of the JW want to get rid of this criminal doctrine of the blood, but they can not find an easy way out.

  Your thoughts....
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  WT Video on how to handle JWs contemplating suicide

  by Oubliette in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  http://www.mediafire.com/watch/cvas6fcrc9zca94/shepherding_instructional_suicidal_widow.avi.

  i just watched beginning of the recently leaked video produced by the wtbts allegedly instructing elders how to treat jws contemplating suicide.

  i am so apalled i cannot even begin to describe it!.

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  ooops. wrong button.
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  Sodomite resurrection flip-flops -- recent WT confession?

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  within the last few years i understand watchtower has issued a concession (no apology) of minor proportion.

  they don't admit to the avalanche of some 8 sequential positions (yes, no, yes, no, ...) of, "will the sodomites receive a resurrection?".

  i think they admit to about three of them.

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  Jude 1:7 as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

  Now the Bible is clear. Read Jude 1:7 above. It is the cities who were performing sexual immorality, not their inhabitants. I can picture a tall obelisk of a certain city going in the sewer of the sister city. Oops, I just made it worse, incest too.
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  Sodomite resurrection flip-flops -- recent WT confession?

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  within the last few years i understand watchtower has issued a concession (no apology) of minor proportion.

  they don't admit to the avalanche of some 8 sequential positions (yes, no, yes, no, ...) of, "will the sodomites receive a resurrection?".

  i think they admit to about three of them.

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  it-2 p. 985 Sodom ***

  "It will be more endurable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah on Judgment Day than for that city." Sodom and Gomorrah were everlastingly destroyed as cities,but this would not preclude a resurrection for people of those cities.—Jude 7; Mt 10:15;

  This quote leads me to conclude that the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah were not the real sinners, they were just collateral damage. The real sinners were the houses, roads and building of those cities. They deserve "everlasting destruction", not the people in it. No wonder C.T. Russell and pretty much everyone of his successors believe that nobody can understand the Bible without their books.
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  The GB's Obsession with the Catholics

  by TTATTelder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the gb for some reason is completely fixated on the roman catholic church (rcc).

  they should just say that the rcc is babylon the great and get it over with.. the "world empire of false religion" ??

  how often do they talk about muslims?

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  never a jw

  Quite ironic, it was the early Cartholic church that created, copied, translated and basically preserved JW's sacred book. A bunch of apostates, as Doug Mason would say, assembled the Bible. The Bible was the main product of the greatest "apostasy" after the second century, and it was courtesy of the people who formed the Catholic church.
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  JW.org Bumper Sticker

  by A.proclaimer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i saw this at the kingdom hall after the meeting.

  "advertise, advertise, advertise!- christendom style".

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  never a jw

  how long before the WT starts relying on ads in jw.org for revenue? I think is coming, not soon, but coming